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ryan was lying. >> stephanie: exactly. and every time joe biden smiles an angel gets its wings. >> charlie pierce wrote a piece and he ended it with do you know what the difference is between sarah palin and paul ryan? lipstick. [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: it's lipstick. you got it? okay. back by popular demend we will be doing the debate special on tuesday. you guys better scrimp together your gas money. >> yeah. >> stephanie: that's the question what will steph and jacki be wearing. now i'm throwing down. >> oh god. >> stephanie: have a great weekend, everybody. we'll see you monday on the "stephanie miller show." ♪
ryan was lying. >> stephanie: exactly. and every time joe biden smiles an angel gets its wings. >> charlie pierce wrote a piece and he ended it with do you know what the difference is between sarah palin and paul ryan? lipstick. [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: it's lipstick. you got it? okay. back by popular demend we will be doing the debate special on tuesday. you guys better scrimp together your gas money. >> yeah. >> stephanie: that's the question what...
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and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >> those are your words not mine. >> thank you very much sir. >> yeah. >> that was kind of strange, put words in people's mouths. >> jennifer: to put this in context, he is being asked in flint, michigan which has a huge crime problem and has been under a emergency financial manager, so a reporter asks are tax cuts basically going to resolve the crime issues? paul ryan did not want to be asked that question. he does not want to be put on the spot. so that's maybe just one window on what his response will be when he is pressed. >> you ca
and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >>...
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nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a voucher -- >> ryan: 100% coverage. >> how do you make that up in >> ryan: by taking down the subsidies for wealthy people. this is a plan -- by the way the $6,400 number was misleading then and it's totally inaccurate now. this is plan i put together -- >> biden: not one democrat endorses this. >> ryan: our partner is a democrat from oregon -- >> biden: and he said he does no longer support you. >> ryan: we put it together with a former clinton advisor -- >> biden: who disavows it. >> ryan: here is the point martha -- if we don't fix this problem prett
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and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital and now i intend to spend it. it is my style. that's what happened in, after the 2000 election. i earned some capital. i've earned capital in this election, and i'm going to spend it for what i told the people i'd spend it on. which is you've heard the agenda. social security and -- >> social security, first on the list. when george w. bush won re-election in 2004, the first thing he said he wanted to spend his political capital on, first on the list was social security. specifically what he meant was privatizing social security. no more social security safety net, just hand it ov
and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital and now i intend to spend it....
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. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if ryan does reasonably well, they can convey he's doing better than expected. it's not true. >> this is a seven-term congressman who does p90x every day, runs marathon -- >> he's debated his opponents many times in wisconsin. >> what's he talking about? >> romney knows that. the big question in this campaign is whether it will catch up to him, is he says whatever is convenient, whatever he can get away with saying. whether on something small like whether paul ryan debated his congressional opponents or on something big like his tax cut. >> indeed. robert, what does paul ryan say when joe bidens, i know
. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if...
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ryan tonight, he's going to call himself mr. ryan, not congressman. is the emergency room a great place to treat people without insurance? is this the future of american health care? >> my hope is that the future of american health care is going to be solved by a lot of the innovation going on out there and that we're going to do something to preserve and expand affordable access to good quality health care and that's what our focus should be, how do we make certain that everybody has access to affordable, quality health care. >> what do you make of your running mate's statement, governor romney's statement that we don't let people die in their apartments, we get them to the hospital, to the emergency room and that's how we handle people. is that satisfactory? what the governor has been saying twice now in the last couple of weeks now? >> what we want to make certain is that there is a continuum of care. of course, when there is an emergency situation, we are blessed to have great hospitals, great trauma centers that have those emergency rooms that ca
ryan tonight, he's going to call himself mr. ryan, not congressman. is the emergency room a great place to treat people without insurance? is this the future of american health care? >> my hope is that the future of american health care is going to be solved by a lot of the innovation going on out there and that we're going to do something to preserve and expand affordable access to good quality health care and that's what our focus should be, how do we make certain that everybody has...
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again, i compared romney's debate performance to the ryan speech in tampa. it was a good performance but it was packed with lies. i think the entire media was focusing on stage craft and performance or entertainment or acting ability and not on the substance of what they said. on the substance of what he said mitt romney simply did not tell the truth about the $5 million, about health care, about a whole lot of stuff. kevin in chicago, kevin getting rid of big bird good idea? >> caller: yeah, my granddaughter is four years old, so i'm ul up to speed on big bird. and it brings back memories of when my kids were young. >> bill: same here. >> caller: it is just an example of the crap that comes out of his mouth. they don't realize the value of putting something on tv for the kids to watch -- >> bill: and learn, yeah. >> caller: and the whole industry that has spawned off of it of the kids toy, and everything -- >> bill: you got it. big bird is a job creator. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ bit. (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed, joy behar. >
again, i compared romney's debate performance to the ryan speech in tampa. it was a good performance but it was packed with lies. i think the entire media was focusing on stage craft and performance or entertainment or acting ability and not on the substance of what they said. on the substance of what he said mitt romney simply did not tell the truth about the $5 million, about health care, about a whole lot of stuff. kevin in chicago, kevin getting rid of big bird good idea? >> caller:...
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mr. ryan has never debated in a world wide forum. while mr. biden has. so it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months ago! can you believe it? mr. obama does some soft news, like the late night shows and the view. but rarely sits for policy interviews. i've interviewed the president twice. but indications are he will dodge "the factor" this year. we hope he doesn't. he wants to reach independent voters, this is the place. obviously any interview he does with us will get world wide attention. vice president biden is even worse in the serious media. he's done few national tv interview views and rarely does he talk to local tv people. he's never been on "the factor," although i will tal
mr. ryan has never debated in a world wide forum. while mr. biden has. so it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months...
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of biden. >> eliot: if i'm paul ryan the first words out of my mouth is mr. vice president i want to quote you directly. the middle class has been buried for four years. you gave us your own score card on your own term. you have graded yourself as a failure. how does joe biden dig himself out of that hole. >> he says it was not just four years and the last four years the result of policies the same that mitt romney and paul ryan are trying to propose will bury the middle class. i think-- >> eliot: i think bill clinton was part of the failure too. nobody would satisfy you. time to change the captain at the helm. ryan, what is your answer if you're joe biden. >> i think something to that effect. he could joke how he doesn't always say exactly what he's trying to say or put it in the most politics terms but that's basically what you want to say. you want to say eight years of deregulation and policies that expended the inequality gap and that led to this public that led to the crisis, which led to the four years of bubbling economy and then shoot a bit to the fu
of biden. >> eliot: if i'm paul ryan the first words out of my mouth is mr. vice president i want to quote you directly. the middle class has been buried for four years. you gave us your own score card on your own term. you have graded yourself as a failure. how does joe biden dig himself out of that hole. >> he says it was not just four years and the last four years the result of policies the same that mitt romney and paul ryan are trying to propose will bury the middle class. i...
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biden said we are buried here and paul ryan. >> they are buried in the moment. they are dealing with austerit yedebt reduction and so forth. biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president. >> it sounds smart because of the accent. wayne, two examples. taxes that are in place and taxes that are coming in the end of the year and alling the class and behaabout the issue regulation. is that the issue that is burying the middle class. >> regulation is more of the issue. we get the bush tax cut in effect. and the idea that the last four years you have had massive taxings. no they are yet to come. man date for noncompliance in 2014 and cadillac tax in 2018 and special kids in 2013. they were not taxes of the last four years they are taxes of the future. you have had massive
biden said we are buried here and paul ryan. >> they are buried in the moment. they are dealing with austerit yedebt reduction and so forth. biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president....
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again, the facts are clear, whether mr. ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something like 23 million americans. in fact, mr. ryan's economic plan was deemed to be so callous that when he spoke at georgetown university, 90 members of the faculty sent him a letter saying that his budget was a complete bastardization of catholic social teaching. as father thomas reese said, i am afraid that chairman ryan's budget reflects the values of his favorite philosopher ayn rand rather than the gospel of jesus christ. mr. ryan says his opponents are liars who want to
again, the facts are clear, whether mr. ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something...
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mr. ryan's answer is, as comprehensive as he was allowed to be, not a game changer but joe biden was on offense. a >> i remember him saying that nothing he just said was true. this is something the democrats have been clamoring for since last week. >> huffing and puffing suggesting that he was obfuscating and not able to proposals.romney's and are the details that are consistent with the facts. spinning has already begun. the campaign manager making the argument that mr. ryan was unable to explain the details and defend them among the various proposals. senior adviser to the romney campagin in that joe biden was not able to defend the president's record. both sides making their cases aggressively, and no clear knockdown, but some very tough uppercuts. >> and that leaves us for a week from matter at the university that could be a game changer. >> absolutely. >> a quick commercial break and we'll come back for a little more analysis measures... measure up. money to our schools. "misleading.
mr. ryan's answer is, as comprehensive as he was allowed to be, not a game changer but joe biden was on offense. a >> i remember him saying that nothing he just said was true. this is something the democrats have been clamoring for since last week. >> huffing and puffing suggesting that he was obfuscating and not able to proposals.romney's and are the details that are consistent with the facts. spinning has already begun. the campaign manager making the argument that mr. ryan was...
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one of the things that paul ryan has pledged to do and now mr. romney as well is day one get rid of insurance coverage for birth control for women. you know, 99% of women rely on birth control. this isn't a social issue for women, it's a basic economic issue. it's incredible to have someone running for president who is so out of touch with what women need. >> thank you both. you're being cheered by the crowd and cheered back here in new york. thank you. >> thank you. >>> next, the president talks up his running mate in the sunshine state. stay with you. >> i have never seen clips of a debate, i have never watched any of those reruns from four years ago. >> really? >> from the acceptance speech to the debate or anything, no. life goes on, you move forward, and i don't rehash the past. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and
one of the things that paul ryan has pledged to do and now mr. romney as well is day one get rid of insurance coverage for birth control for women. you know, 99% of women rely on birth control. this isn't a social issue for women, it's a basic economic issue. it's incredible to have someone running for president who is so out of touch with what women need. >> thank you both. you're being cheered by the crowd and cheered back here in new york. thank you. >> thank you. >>>...
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mr. ryan and mr. romney have served up one big crap burger an another in this race. the most farfetched is the fiction that they're trying to help the middle class. we're joined now by representative john yarmouth, democrat of kentucky, and a member of the house budget committee that mr. ryan chairs. thank you, sir, for joining us. we heard last night from mr. ryan about helping out the middle class. of course, we've also heard mr. romney say that, too. take a listen to this, sir. >> and i will get them lower. let me tell you how we can. i have a plan to cut taxes for middle incomes taxpayers. my plan does this, there will be no tax on interest, dividends, or capital gains for middle income families in america. >> i must draw your attention to that, sir. according to the tack policy center, 70% of the federal tax on capital gains is paid for by the wealthiest 1% of the people, the top 1%. yet mr. romney is telling us his capital gains tax cut, like it's some kind of gift for the middle class. i'm interested in your response to that. >> well, of course, we know that g
mr. ryan and mr. romney have served up one big crap burger an another in this race. the most farfetched is the fiction that they're trying to help the middle class. we're joined now by representative john yarmouth, democrat of kentucky, and a member of the house budget committee that mr. ryan chairs. thank you, sir, for joining us. we heard last night from mr. ryan about helping out the middle class. of course, we've also heard mr. romney say that, too. take a listen to this, sir. >> and...
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let me ask you quickly, what do you think -- mr. ryan -- steve kornacki? >> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. >>> catch steve on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >>> still ahead, was there an intervention in the romney campaign? news tonight about a big fight inside team romney. >>> rudy giuliani think about it, there is only three, a noun a verbal and 9/11 nothing else. i've been negotiating since you were in congress. if you all had been around enough -- maybe i've been around too long they forget all the wonderful things i've done -- but all siding aside -- walk around in my neighborho
let me ask you quickly, what do you think -- mr. ryan -- steve kornacki? >> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1...
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apparently mr. ryan want to be referred to tonight as mr. ryan, not congressman ryan. isn't that a little strange? >> it's not strange at all, reverend. congress is about as popular as psycho killers right now, according to polls. of course he doesn't want to be associated with it. >> but that's the only job that he's had. >> yes, that's true. but i guess he's entitled to be called mister. i don't think joe biden is goi to let the audience forget that paul ryan has been in congress and he's a key figure in the house republican leadership that americans deeply are distressed. >> dana milbank and erin mcpike, mr. sharpton thanks you for your time tonight. >>> there's a chance -- a chance paul ryan won't tell the truth tonight. how will vice president biden respond? that's next. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medica
apparently mr. ryan want to be referred to tonight as mr. ryan, not congressman ryan. isn't that a little strange? >> it's not strange at all, reverend. congress is about as popular as psycho killers right now, according to polls. of course he doesn't want to be associated with it. >> but that's the only job that he's had. >> yes, that's true. but i guess he's entitled to be called mister. i don't think joe biden is goi to let the audience forget that paul ryan has been in...
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mr. ryan would put your mercy at the stock market. ryan ran out of the room to hide his extreme position. >> we will honor this position and we are not going to jeopardize this program but we have to save it. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you are changing it to supreme and support. the bottom line, people are going to have to may more money out of their pocket. >> it's a voucher. who do you believe? the ama? me? a guy who has fought his whole life for this? a guy that would put a plan in place that knowing cuts $6,400 a year more to the cost of medicare. >> that's what congressman ryan would knowingly do to seniors. vice president biden unmasked what he and his running mate really think about medicare. >> these guys hadn't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party has not been big on medicare from the beginning and they've always been about social security as little as you can do. look, folks, use your commonsense. who do you trust on this? a man who introduced a bill that would raise it $6400 a year knowing it and p
mr. ryan would put your mercy at the stock market. ryan ran out of the room to hide his extreme position. >> we will honor this position and we are not going to jeopardize this program but we have to save it. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you are changing it to supreme and support. the bottom line, people are going to have to may more money out of their pocket. >> it's a voucher. who do you believe? the ama? me? a guy who has fought his whole life for this? a guy that...
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i am going to go with mr. romney and paul ryan. i thought of vice-president joe biden was very rude. he cut all right and off all the time, like he did not want to hear what he said. on the abortion issue, i agree with the -- they said they supported it for the woman and and rape. that is what i believe. planned parenthood to me takes measures not to get that way -- to get a heart beat and kill them. years or die catholic. yes. baptist. the remarks the caller made about joe biden being a used car salesman, i have a son that is a car salesman. he does not talk like that. he is not rude. obama does not carry about the coal miners. he has put lots of them out of work. more mines are closing down. ohio and west virginia and all the other calls states, they are hurting. i think president obama is weak on foreign policy. pretty soon we will have two classes said interim america free it two terms from obama. >> on twitter from john kerry -- you are on--sue. >> hello i thought of vice- president joe biden did a great job. he actually gave
i am going to go with mr. romney and paul ryan. i thought of vice-president joe biden was very rude. he cut all right and off all the time, like he did not want to hear what he said. on the abortion issue, i agree with the -- they said they supported it for the woman and and rape. that is what i believe. planned parenthood to me takes measures not to get that way -- to get a heart beat and kill them. years or die catholic. yes. baptist. the remarks the caller made about joe biden being a used...
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what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were settled last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actually this. his cam
what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's...
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host: mr. biden frequently interrupted his challenger. mr. ryan was often more honest . just a take from the analysis in "the wall street journal" this morning. undecided voters only. ed in south carolina. what are the issues that are important to you and why are you undecided? caller: i was undecided, but i decided in the debate last night. congressman ryan is not a leader. he is a follower. he just says ignorant things. he did not answer any questions. he stumbled over a lot of his words. biden on point, asking all of the questions. the people that are not getting it, you have people walking barefoot, no clothes, shopping in walmart, and they will vote republican. you have a man trying to help them. host: we will leave your comments there and go to john in new hampshire. john, why are you undecided right now? caller: good morning. i am right down the street from where romney vacations in new hampshire. host: why are you and decided? -- undecided? caller: i have not heard clear plans. i'm a laid-off executive, struggling to find a job making what i was making before, an
host: mr. biden frequently interrupted his challenger. mr. ryan was often more honest . just a take from the analysis in "the wall street journal" this morning. undecided voters only. ed in south carolina. what are the issues that are important to you and why are you undecided? caller: i was undecided, but i decided in the debate last night. congressman ryan is not a leader. he is a follower. he just says ignorant things. he did not answer any questions. he stumbled over a lot of his...
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. >> mr. ryan? >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate is in scranton today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> you don't read the
. >> mr. ryan? >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate is in scranton today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> you don't read the
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mr. ryan. well, coming up, as we've been saying, these are two extraordinary opponents representing two different generations. biden, 69, ryan, 42. for the first time in history, though, both men are catholic. and they bring two very come peopling stories to the stage. abc's david muir telling us about that. david? >> reporter: great to see you, diane, from kentucky tonight. let me show you how they're framing the debate. this poster is up all over the place. thrill in the ville. these two men will be sparring over very different policies tonight,s be as we discovers today, they actually have quite a bit in common. their political paths both began when they were young. joe biden, 29 when elected to the senate. paul ryan, 28 when he went to congress. both catholic, both celebrate their roots of blue collar america. joe biden grew up in a tight-knit family, played college football and when his grades suffered, his father stepped in. >> you've got to be a college man, joey. and i asked, why is thi
mr. ryan. well, coming up, as we've been saying, these are two extraordinary opponents representing two different generations. biden, 69, ryan, 42. for the first time in history, though, both men are catholic. and they bring two very come peopling stories to the stage. abc's david muir telling us about that. david? >> reporter: great to see you, diane, from kentucky tonight. let me show you how they're framing the debate. this poster is up all over the place. thrill in the ville. these...
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nobody is -- >> mr. vice president -- >> reporter: and what a contrast. throughout the debate, biden smiled. smirked. grinned and cackled. >> medicare and social security are going bankrupt. >> reporter: ryan was earnest, intense, super see use. and they grappled all night. on the economy, biden unloaded, attacking mitt romney where president obama had not, on that video tape where romney called 47% of the american people victims who won't take responsibility for their lives. >> these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with. my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays on his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan got personal. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> reporter: for a vice presidential debate, the stakes were high tonight. after mitt romney's big win in denver and president
nobody is -- >> mr. vice president -- >> reporter: and what a contrast. throughout the debate, biden smiled. smirked. grinned and cackled. >> medicare and social security are going bankrupt. >> reporter: ryan was earnest, intense, super see use. and they grappled all night. on the economy, biden unloaded, attacking mitt romney where president obama had not, on that video tape where romney called 47% of the american people victims who won't take responsibility for their...
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did mr. ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best thing for biden in the whole thing. >>> did you observe that part buchanan is glorifying here? >> i agree biden was very effective with that argument and it set you want something for ryan to attempt to discount it by saying ryan is full of all these gaffes all the time but i didn't think it came across as effectively as they wanted it do. it got a laugh but didn't kill the argument biden was making about the 47%. >>> when we come back, the benghazi blame game. you spent years hard at work, building your skills and talents, raising your family. and lately, like me, you're probably feeling
did mr. ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best...
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i think mr. ryan is right on target with tweaking the system, and ms. ethridge said that people who are on medicare for the next 10 years, there will be no major changes. i think that the idea of the voucher system and tweaking is the way to go. one more comment. mr. obama talks about the rich and how romney is rich. he has made it a dirty word to become rich, and he hangs with every celebrity and every rich person there is. as far as connections to people, i think romney has the better connection. that is all i wanted to say. host: all right, we will move on to miami, florida, independent caller bank. caller: i think of what some people are concerned about with this voucher -- i understand that health care is growing at twice that of inflation. you give somebody a voucher, a certain amount, let's say $6,000, $7,000, but over time, the cost of health care continues to rise and rise and rise. they have not given us any kind of idea of how they are going to keep up with the rising costs of health care on the particular policy. also, that particular board
i think mr. ryan is right on target with tweaking the system, and ms. ethridge said that people who are on medicare for the next 10 years, there will be no major changes. i think that the idea of the voucher system and tweaking is the way to go. one more comment. mr. obama talks about the rich and how romney is rich. he has made it a dirty word to become rich, and he hangs with every celebrity and every rich person there is. as far as connections to people, i think romney has the better...
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they are always calling him mr. gaffe and mr. stupid which he is not. and tonight we want joe to be joe. go after ryan. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ will have achieved their end of i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today... ♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: 33 minutes after the hour. we're going to join wanda somers who has been on the campaign trial with mitt romney heading to -- and she's heading to lexington, virginia for the vice presidential -- kentucky rather -- for the vice presidential debate tonight. she'll join us in the next segment. and we're taking your calls about what you are looking for tonight. we'll get back to your calls at 866-55-press
they are always calling him mr. gaffe and mr. stupid which he is not. and tonight we want joe to be joe. go after ryan. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ will have achieved their end of i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp...
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he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. whether it's about medicare and that it's a voucher program, that mr. romney and mr. ryan, their health care plan will lead to many uninsured and put people back out. preexisting conditions. >> let me just step back just a minute here about your defense of the president's performance. what is your theory? i mean, it was widely panned, and the thing is if he thought as he said the next day that mitt romney isn't telling the truth, that mitt romney is remaking himself, xwr wouldn't he say that on the stage? what went wrong there? >> not in president obama's mind. i was in denver. i was in that audience. you know, as a debater, of course, i've never run for president, but have you to decide do you want to spend all your time all night long refuting someone's lies about your record or even about your own, and mitt romney is a guy -- i have never seen this before. he has been on two different sides of his own plan, which, of course, he won't explain, so he can have multiple positions about
he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. whether it's about medicare and that it's a voucher program, that mr. romney and mr. ryan, their health care plan will lead to many uninsured and put people back out. preexisting conditions. >> let me just step back just a minute here about your defense of the president's performance. what is your theory? i mean, it was widely panned, and the thing is if he thought as he said the next day that mitt...
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ryan was trying to talk to us was very disruptive to me, but i don't feel mr. ryan answered questions. >> and our coverage continues right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. we're in the cnn election center for a come on hennive look at how paul ryan did in this debate. we're releasing the results of the poll of debate watchers. who won tonight? john berman continues to pore through the candidates' answers. erin burnett stands by. when they gave the candidates highest and lowest marks. we expected a lively debate and we got it. congressman ryan argued forcefully for changes in the program and said it will go bankrupt. and he said the president's health care reform plan makes things worse. >> look what obama care does. it takes $716 billion from medicare to spend on obama care. even their own chief actuary says you can't claim this goes to medicare and obama care and then they cut medicare each and every year in ways that will denied care for current seniors.
ryan was trying to talk to us was very disruptive to me, but i don't feel mr. ryan answered questions. >> and our coverage continues right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. we're in the cnn election center for a come on hennive look at how paul ryan did in this debate. we're releasing the results of the poll of debate watchers. who won tonight? john berman continues to pore...